Thursday, November 10, 2005

been carryin on great googuly moogulying Israel Shamir

When I ran out of OOOOOOOOO, went back and forth google decided to offer quite a few more citations after all (perhaps this observation is entirely too subjective to ever become repeatable ((even by me)) and I am ashamed to waste your precious focus on it).

Anyway, before showing you what I found worthwile showing you (more likely just reminding myself of in the future and even that isn't very) I'll tell you how today's session ended:

Whooo, this gets wwweeeiiirrrdddeeerrr than weird by it's lonesome self; here I am gooooooooogleng along and click from 12th to 13 page . .. you'll never guess what happens (wish I had lots of readers to poll on this), not only does a page 8 show up (instead of 13) but it is also the last page whereas on the 12th I was looking at another 10 to go (at least) does this result number sorta fluctuate with traffic like blogger does (quite unpredictably too I might add)?

chroniclesmagazine.org/.. a commenter to this may 2005 article by Patrick Buchanan called 'Bringing the Arab Street to Power' posts a substantial review of 'Pardes' which reads in part: "Pardes" is a Hebrew acronym referring to four levels of meaning: peshat (plain meaning), remez (allusions), derash (hermeneutic), and sod (esoteric)." and gets roundly (if not soundly) scolded by the next: "Shamir is an asshole and so is anyone who quotes him."


booksurge.com/product.php3?bookID=GPUB02699-00001 read a sample from the english edition here.


cmaq.net/fr/node.php?id=22367 account of the Shamir book publisher's day in court in france early sept
(verdict was given the 2nd of nov: 3 months in jail and a fine) which plumenclume calls 'hostile' but the site is interesting; it links to all the indymedia sites around the world and has hundreds of items on a vast range of topics (a round thou on resistance and 248 on agriculture). cmaq.net/en/index.php the english version


http://geocities.com/plumenclume/textes/audience092005.pdf friendly one (both via http://geocities.com/plumenclume/actuel.html)


militantlibertarian.org/archives/2005_06_05_index.html
the famous Mr Makow (savethemales) on Shamir's blind spots


vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=25605 Bill White was readmitted at the hard right forum only day ago and has already 3 pages worth of posts in the thread: 'The Yell At Bill White Thread'


revelation2seven.org/WebPages/SideLinks/IsraelShamir.htm
john scorp, luke acq, mark taur, mat leo .. .. or so the show goes on a diagram here . ... this fella looks like a hippy cabbalist and the piece of art I saw was encouraging too but then I clicked some audio .. .. lordy lordy LORD .. is that BORING!!!!!!! I'll read some stuff about the moon and islam nevertheless though.



israel.favos.nl
- 143k 1336 links (including sports in the region) with dutch headings

------- Holy Land by Israel ShamirISBN: 1-4196-0835-5 Binding: Trade Paper 288 pages ... Read also the Pardes and Flowers of Galilee by Shamir; available on this etrend.ch link - 87k - link to the german version I am reading. http://mypage.bluewin.ch/asterix/ seems like a friend or at least a prospective one for the etrend man

http://revolutionaryflowerpotsociety.theblog.cc/ and another one to check with an effectively eye protecting browser LIKE NETSCAPE!!!!

wizedome.nl/news.html white page alert


http://godlikeproductions.com/bbs/..ef sorta the only thread that spins out a semblance of debate over the Pardes book (white page alert) beginning with the Makow piece.


http://palforce.blogspot.com p OK, listen up folks, this is a numogrammarian xenotationist whatever (number juggle n stacker (stakker?)) b web junky c pro-palestinian and c just quit his job d eyefriendly background sport

stormfront tips and quotes:

Download this and other Bizarre Jew books here:
theabsolute.net/ottow/#aphorisms

Hitler’s ideas of opposing Aryan and Jewish archetypes were drawn to a certain extent on the theories of a brilliant Viennese philosopher, Otto Weininger, who repudiated Jewry and was received into the Lutheran Church. For Otto Weininger, Jewishness was ‘neither a race nor a people nor a recognised creed, but a tendency of the mind’. He wrote: “I am dealing with Judaism, in the platonic sense, as an idea. There is no more an absolute Jew than an absolute Christian. To defeat Judaism, a Jew must first understand himself and war against himself. Only steady resolution, united to the highest self-respect, can free the Jew from Jewishness. Therefore the Jewish question can only be solved individually; every single Jew must try to solve it in his proper person” – by discovering God’s presence in the world, that is Christ.

The man Hitler called his ‘fatherly friend’, a Bavarian poet Dietrich Eckart combined an anti-Judaic line with anti-capitalist thought. He believed the Jewish element is present in all people and nations; it has to be overcome but can’t be totally annihilated7. Jewish and Aryan correspond to Ying and Yang opposites, in his view, and some ‘Jewishness’ (egoism) is needed ----
6 Bryan Mark Rigg, Hitler's Jewish Soldiers. The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military, kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html ---- 7 Albert Lindemann, Esau’s Tears p 498 --- for a nation in order to survive. He had great respect for Jews who came to Christ. Hitler dedicated the second volume of Mein Kampf to him.

Despite his admiration for Weininger and love of Eckhart, pragmatically minded Hitler preferred, rather than fighting the Judaic approach, to imitate it by making ‘his own people, the Germans’ – the Chosen Folk. This racist attitude caused a sea of suffering to all nations of Europe and ruined the old continent for years to come. Still it is important to remember that a negative reading of Judaism (or Jewishness) is not inherently racist, but can be sublimely ideological and theological.

Anti-Judaic thought lies at the foundation of Christianity and Communism, to mention just two of most important ideologies.
PARDES ----- An etude in Cabbala --- By Israel Shamir --- The Road To Suez


ps 11th of nov:

http://on.starblvd.net/cgi-bin/bbsmsg?ardy&tr=16.3&b5
GIGANTIC file (allow considerable time to download (lots
of taste- and truthful political toons)
---- jap site


obviously quite useful to keep trying and for a few
minutes the next day google once again listed 20 pages and
I scrambled to click on a few then got overconfident,
started doing something else and within half an hour later
it was back to 8 pages again. .. sigh ... should have
gone for the 100 hits via advanced search .. .but to show
you why I will carry on, here's the 123rd specimen:
Bravo, France & other things - Israel Shamir
Meanwhile, you May buy Flowers of Galilee, The Pardes and
our Lady of Sorrows,
... as usual, Israel Shamir, you have shown tremendous
courage and ...
http://margotbworldnews.com/archive/2005May/May30/BravoFrance.htm
l - 44k

... links to a very heavily used forum: http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/index.php
(uses white make-up eyece agingly)


http://templeofpolemic.proboards42.com
very beautiful forum (not heavily used), a dinotopia.com
offshoot (roleplay stuff)


http://www.thesecretofthestars.com/noticias.htm site in
spanish; nice design, all too christian content but they
hate american zio-christian policy; heavily illustrated
pages with reports in english mixed in


www.justbreaking.com (conspiracy in white)





http://forum.atimes.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2233&whichpage=1 Wilbur, Gnosticism, and the Revival of Metaphysics
Spengler
Member

1518 Posts ----

Posted - 06/23/2005 : 11:22:01 ----
"Israel Shamir" is a notorious hoaxster, a Russian neo-Nazi posing as an Israeli Jew. I have thrown this forum posters who used inflammatory anti-Muslim rhetoric, and I will throw out posters who use inflammatory anti-Jewish rhetoric as well. "Judaic church of Mammon" indeed! Next we will hear about desecrated hosts and children sacrified to make unleavened bread for the Jewish Passover! There is no excuse for this sort of thing, whether stated as one's own opinion or recycled from scurrilous imposters such as the so-called Shamir.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=98239

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further down the thread the same poster/listmom recommends: http://trans-int.blogspot.com/2005/05/karl-pfeifer-on-israel-shamir-and.html


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bole1000
I was just writing this response:

I did expect reaction to the posting of quotes from Israel Shamir’s book; however, I am surprised that Spengler responded in such uncouth way. The views presented were those of Israel Shamir not mine. But I admit that his narrative offers some explanatory power just like Spengler’s. Both Spengler and Shamir write very well in a captivating style. Both dare to say things that are beyond the pale. For these reasons I read Shamir and read Spengler and then I also form hypotheses about why certain things are said and why some are omitted in their writings. I try to learn about the men. One can find more about real Shamir than about the Spengler as the former does not hide behind the penname. Both Shamir and Spengler are concerned with the decline of the West. However they see opposite causes and remedies. I hypothesize that Spengler is philo-Judaic and anti-Muslim and Shamir is anti-Judaic and pro-Muslim. Spengler’s concern about the West and Christianity does not seem to stem form the love for Christianity. In fact love is manifestly absent in his writings. On the other hand Shamir seem to deeply care for Christianity. It strikes me that Spengler is on the Right and Shamir is on the Left. Spengler’s reaction confirms my hypothesis that behind all his erudition and eloquence there is a man who is strongly biased and probably with a mission that he does not reveal. Nevertheless I will continue reading him not only for the pleasure of deconstructing him but for a need to be surprised by his often outrageous ideas that in some circles would qualify him as a sewer tenant as well.

when I saw further entries by elendil, Spengler and other that seemed to close th matter by dismissing Shamir as a kook and neo-Nazi... I am really sorry by your reaction. I see there is no point of discussing anything on this matter. Enjoy yourself cooking in your own sauces of mutual adoration society. Au revoir.


a www.arraymagazine.com/israel+shamir.html pro


www.buzzbob.com/index/i/israelshamir_net.html - 10k


http://www.mauspfeil.net/Israel_Shamir.html the wiki talk page on IS in grey on clear sky blue, made in june this year.


2 of my pages for 'Philip Callahan' on google dressed up by mauspfeil here

http://root.asv-ski.de/web-9/wsv_glonn/content.php?folder=2 this wintersports place has a mirror of the truthseeker up but with black on dark blue it's unreadable

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